Aug 29, 2006, 11:46 AM // 11:46
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Ascalonian Squire
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Rt/Me or Rt/R Beach Farm (Khanhei/Vengeful base)
*NEW* - Spiders use of Savage shot seems to be changed with some update. If u got problems without AntiInterrupt skills, grab
Mantra of Resolve and maybe Channeling instead of Shooting or what suits best to your gamestyle.
Vengeful - Beach Farm
First of all a few things that are not that intresting, but I did want to say.
- My english ist not the best and all but 100% in Gramma, so no need to bitch about it. I know it.
- This tempalte/s are nothing real new at all. I just thought it maybe a nice add if people browse forum and look for new farm way or area for their Ritu to farm.
- Maybe with finding this template they realize that it is possbile to beach farm or bored Warrior Beach farmers give it a try, to have a new beach farm expirience.
Character / Equipment recommended:
- Ritualist for sure
- Subclass Mesmer or Ranger, other should work too.
- Armor = +15 AL while affected by Weapon spell, is at least pretty good choice
- Weapons: Guess a lot of combis or choices will work, for me a +10 AL Staff worked fine.
Skills and Attributes:
Ritualist/Mesmer
Level: 20
Restoration Magic: 16 (12+4)
Inspiration Magic: 3
Illusion Magic: 12
11 Illusion will do fine, too. I just prefer the 1 more second run buff and you really don t need the Physical resistance skilled up! But the 1 second longer run can save your life.
- Vengeful Was Khanhei [Elite] (Restoration Magic)
- Arcane Echo (Mesmer other)
- Vengeful Weapon (Restoration Magic)
- Resilient Weapon (Restoration Magic)
- Soothing Memories (Restoration Magic)
- Generous was Tsungrai (Restoration Magic)
- Physical Resistance (Inspiration Magic) Variable slot. Not really needed
- Illusion of Haste (Illusion Magic)
Alternative:
Ritualist/Ranger
Level: 20
Restoration Magic: 16 (12+4)
Wilderness Survival: 12
To start out you don t really need “Shoothing Memories”. I just made a whole run without really using it and in my opinion the whole run was more save then with a Warrior.
- Vengeful Was Khanhei [Elite] (Restoration Magic)
- Vengeful Weapon (Restoration Magic)
- Resilient Weapon (Restoration Magic)
- Soothing Memories (Restoration Magic) Not Really needed, I prefer to use TU instead.
- Generous was Tsungrai (Restoration Magic)
- Troll Unguent (Wilderness Survival)
- Storm Chaser (Wilderness Survival)
- Serpents Quickness [Variable not really need but will work better, Thx Bolygo for the tip]
Note: The Rt/R was thought for "poor mans" start, when u don t have XY Skill Points to unlock, it will work with VwK, VW, RW, SM, SC only... ! Will be challengeing but maybe even more of fun this way .
- I don t want to give a full Tutorial how to make a Beach run, so I will Link over to a great Warrior Beach Far guide for Basic. (if this is not appriciated, plz let me know)
- Check out in the following link how to run to the beach, how to pull and how to find safezones also the way how monsters act. But still you will learn the most ingame via learning by doing.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=77852#
- If you didn t play a Vengeful farmer yet, I would suggest to read following guide and get a basec how to play it at some easy monsters. Like Dragonroots and kirins right outside of “Maatu Keep”.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3054093
If expirienced in Beach farming and Vengeful farming or read the guides read on or not for a few hints at the beach with the Vengeful Ritu.
The better choice of Both Templates above should definitly be the Rt/Me, because the Echoed Khanhei and Spiders wont hit you for more then 25 with an AL of 109. At least they didn t hit me for more.
The Rt/R I added because I had no skill point to buy Illusion of haste yesterday. So I thought it would be nice to add it for people that don t have the money or skill points to buy need skills. But may got the ranger skills.
Added: How to run to Beach
- When spawned go to tha Wall behind Ghost
- Wait till the Shadow Group u need to pass stopped moveing, they will sort of format them.. All take a specific position.
- Check out where the Shadow Mesmer is, if he is far your fine. If he is close and will be in cast range expect a shatter enchantment!
- Move up as close as possible without aggroing them
- Cast Resilent weapon, Tsungrai then IoH. When u expect a shatter wait with running till IoH is rechared to 3/4 the move along the wall. (tsungrai isn t 100% needed but useful if u want to have backup without need to cast it)
- Whenshattered IoH asap and run on.
- Video May Will follow. Hope that few notes help a bit on the start of the run.
- Explain whole run in words without screens isn t possible, at least not for me. Only can consirder to read the warrior guide i linked above for how the way to beach is in general and the mob movements!
NEW: VIDEO
-Containt, How to run to beach, how to pull, and some other minors.
-Note that Mobs can spawn slighty different and safezones at beach mustn't
be a safe zone everytime.
-If u don t want to take a risk, kill everything...
-Note In the Upper Right corner u see a countdown till u can download, then enter validation code... .
-If u once failed to type code correct, push backward and then refresh to get a new code.
-You will need to download a 2MB Tool ofeered by badago (same site) to merge the files. It got split up while uploading.
The tool look pretty easy to handle. So shouldn t be a big deal at all.
-Sometimes the host is working on the webspace and the File is not avaible for an unspecific amount of time. PLZ Try again Later if so!
http://www.badongo.com/file/1326578
Hints at the Beach:
Shepereds Deal a good amount of dmg in a single attack, but they are not enougth in one group to get dangerous. With Rt/Me there shouldn t be any problem at all.
With Rt/R you should be a bit careful when Khanhei runs out. Best Cast TU when Khanhei starts to blink and when fully run out Grab Tsungrai Ashes. If you need extra heal beside TU drop the Tsungrai.
Spam Vengeful Weapon all the way at this mobs, so they go down quickly.
At the other hand this mobs are the most dangerous for the Rt/Me if you get Skales added by accident. If unlucky you will be crippeled by Shepered life transfer + siphon on you and no Khanei up… . Died once yet to such happening when not paing attention for 10 seconds… .
Note: When you Hold an Ashes and cast a new one you will drop the old ones not loose them like when they just time out. So if you cast a new ashes while hold one already. YOU will get the “drop effect” from this ashes when dropping them through summoning new.
Dryders are the least mobs that should kill you down here. Just get them to an save zone cast Khanhei and spam Vegeful. Don t try to Echo Khanhei when aggroed, if u want an echoed khanhei get it echoed before u aggro em. Or they shatter before you are able to cast Khanhei in most trys.
Quote:
BTW if anyone don't know, you can solo the Ancient scales also, just use a long bow on a land same height as them. Don't aggro them from a higher land this will cause them to run nearer to you. Aggro them and get them out of the cast range (out of ur aggro circle) VwK them to death.
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[thx to shinslw, for explanation how to beat em]
The most intresting part are Spiders. I wasn t sure if it will work, since I had to go down with Rt/R how I said because of lag of Illusion of haste.
The nice Part was when I noticed that you really need to do a lot of mistakes at once, fall asleep or go afk when fightning them to die to them.
In other word, if they wouldn t have Healing spring on their bar we could go pull Hundreds of them and kill them all at once. But well, they got Healing Spring.
With Rt/Me it is damn easy. If you handle your energy right, I say it shouldn t be impossible to aggro all spiders on the field and pick out a few you kill.
Just Hold Resilent Weapon running if you want to take no risk. Run up to the stack you pulled out and echo Vengeful was Khanhei. Hold Physical Resistance running and recast Khanhei. If u want you can spam Vengeful weapon, if you Spiders will die after the 3rd Khanhei. Some may still live, depending on how much they got healed by the first planted Healing Spring. (Few tips on avoid HS and pulling to a stack later on)
With Rt/R you should take care to mostly only pull 1 group of spiders. What are 3, if a 2nd group will add it should be no problem to hold youself alive while Khanhei still rechargeing.
If you get aggro more then 6 you need to decide if make sure and run or try to make it.
Important for Rt/R is to Hold Resilent Weapon running all the time, it will grant you armor and +2 regeneration even when poisoned.
Avoid Healing Springs
Ya the deal is to not let them use Healing Spring. We do it like in the Warrior “BeachFarm” Tutotrial mentioned way.
If you go in “like” melee range the spiders wont use Healing Spring!
That’s even all about it.
The thing to learn is, how close you need to really be.
Best way is to Aggro 1 group pull them back and get them to stack up. I.E. 1 spider is 5 feet right sided to the other to, try to move out of shot range to the left of them. So the single spider will move up into their friends.
If you got a good stack move in cast Khanei, if rechargeing hold yourself alive while it(mostly just pick 1 Tsungrei and drop it when lower the 50% will do it) , and recast Khanei…. Loop.
For Rt/Me just hold Khanei Running.
Note: When you aggroed 1 group of spiders and run up to them, some or even all will cast healing srping 1 time. So don t be worried, maybe just wand them to interrupt them. After that 1st Healing Spring they shouldn t use it again. At least not the once you want to kill and stand close to. If they get healed by an other spider and you can t find a spot to fix the problem use your run buff and disaggro them. Go for a new try… .
Further Hints:
Video:
This viedo only shows killing mobs, not how to pull or hot to run to beach. If you are looking for things like that download the Video above that is at the "ADDED NEW" position.
Note In the Upper Right corner u see a countdown till u can download, then enter validation code... .
Should be playable in WMP, Winamp and co. Don t try with DivX
http://www.Badongo.com/file/1313276
Note: The First 3 shepereds/snarlings what ever at the entrance can be a dangerous grp when u aggro the dryder next to. But if you pull the snareling to where the dryder ~is you fight at a safer spot. Just don t try to echo cause of the shatter from the dryder... .
Note: If try pull spiders for 6 or more at once killing, notice it can take time or you fail pull em right. you maybe will be faster when just pulling 3 to a small stack.
Note: If you think you pull failed when trieng to kill more then 4 at once, use your last Khanhei to run out with Illusion of haste! If Khanhei runs out you can Hold your self alive against a lot of spider right, but you will be punished for any failure or mana point you maybe wasted before.
Never Kill less then 3 at once! You just need to stack spiders up, it is done in less then 1 minute mostly.
Pull Tip: At the Waterfall, Pull 6 Spiders to the Walls and move close the wall. Let them Group up and move little back and let them group up again. Loop this Untill you got them Stacked at an corner. Corners are the spot you want them to Group! Corners make them Stack as close as possible, but be careful 1 Step to far you move back can let them move arround the corner and split up again.
In my Expirience when pulling more then 6 to one stack, mostly 1 spider will be a little bit to far from you and plant healing springs that will heal all the other.
Inside the Cave you can do same you would need to wait for the 2nd three spider group to show up so.
After the last Spider you can move a little on and pop up 2 shadow beasts which you can solo even more easy then Dryders. They dropped me an Shard yesterday and gave me an new personal record of 4 shards in one beach run =).
Extra Note: Yes Cave Spiders do Have Savage shot. But for luck they only use it when your health will drop to ~1/3 or lower. So you don t want to drop that low. With Rt/Me this should not happen, with Rt/R make sure to pick Tsungrei earlie enougth to maybe manually drop it before castin Khanhei.
Well HF to stand spiders to death. For me it is just a more relaxing way to farm them then with a warrior.
Maybe will Add Screens later.
Hope it is of use for a few.
PS: This one is a way more challenging then Smite run with a Rt/Me at least in my opinion. Maybe the run to the spiders is a way more easy then to smites. But killing spiders specially 6 is more difficult/fun then killing 12 smites.
Best about it just change 2 skill and you can switch over for a smite run... So bored of one of both? go switch skills no need for change attributes at all.
Last edited by Weidi; Oct 19, 2006 at 12:26 PM // 12:26..
Reason: fine tunes
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Aug 29, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: TLK
Profession: Rt/R
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Nice guide, I can solo with Rit/R with a slightly different build but not the spiders will definitely try for Rit/mes next. Hope a video pops up soon. Thanks for the tips
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Aug 29, 2006, 12:52 PM // 12:52
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: TLK
Profession: Rt/R
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BTW if anyone don't know, you can solo the Ancient scales also, just use a long bow on a land same height as them. Don't aggro them from a higher land this will cause them to run nearer to you. Aggro them and get them out of the cast range (out of ur aggro circle) VwK them to death.
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Aug 29, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denmark
Guild: [HH] [Hax]
Profession: Mo/
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Nice guide, im looking forward to some pics + Videos maybe ^^ >_>
~Shadow
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Aug 29, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21
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#5
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Ascalonian Squire
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When you drop TrollU. and Generous was whom ever and a bit of train it should be still possible to do.
So if u only need this 3 left skillslots for ur other build u can "mix em".
GwT u don t need if u do carefully... Shooting M. will be enougth. Or just upsidedown...
If someone got expirience with the "Rt invading the Forrest Build" i wonder if u can combine this 2...
And for Video i don t think i ll make one, sry.
Got at least one nice screene from a 6 spider pull killing all at 1time...which i could upload this evening.
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Aug 29, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: TLK
Profession: Rt/R
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Yea update with us how much you can kill at a time, did it break any of your previous records
Last edited by shinslw; Aug 29, 2006 at 03:18 PM // 15:18..
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Aug 29, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18
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#7
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Ascalonian Squire
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added screen: 6 one health bar is bit hard to find... but screen should prove u can kill em all same time.
The problem with more then 6 is, that it is hard to pull all so close together that none of them will use healing spring. And if u just fail to pull one close enougth to the other. it most likely will heal all the others with healing spring... (sry if i m telling this 3rd time already XD )
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Aug 30, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34
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Ascalonian Squire
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Added: Video, showing good pulls of spiders and how to kill scales and the entrance snarling grp + the 2-3 shadow beasts at the end that did drop obsis for me already... .
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Aug 30, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Endangered Feces [DoDo]
Profession: Mo/
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Nice build, you could consider using Serpents Quickness and Quickening Zephyr when Rt/R, that way you have constant Vengeful Was Khanei.
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Aug 30, 2006, 11:51 AM // 11:51
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolygo
Nice build, you could consider using Serpents Quickness and Quickening Zephyr when Rt/R, that way you have constant Vengeful Was Khanei.
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Ya well why not, i will add this to the "guide".
But i didn t thought about how to improve the rt/r myself, because i used it a forced way...
How i said no run buff for mesmer when i first tried and nothing unlocked on ranger... . So i just took ranger where i had stormchaser for running...
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Aug 30, 2006, 01:09 PM // 13:09
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: TLK
Profession: Rt/R
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OMG a video O_O downloading it now will add comments and advices once I watched it XD can't wait to farm for my dervish fow LOL
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Aug 30, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18
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#12
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinslw
OMG a video O_O downloading it now will add comments and advices once I watched it XD can't wait to farm for my dervish fow LOL
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Maybe we ll get a "Dervish Solo Forge Run" XD
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Aug 30, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: TLK
Profession: Rt/R
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Weidi what staff are you using in the video? I would suggest Brightclaw(also 2020 restoration) and a 2020 restoration focus. Gives you a better chance for fast recharge and skill cast. Just want to say thanks alot for the video. Now my rit/mes can farm both uw and fow XD~
For beginners, advice - do not aggro ancients skales and snarling driftwood together. You are not supposed to lol. Else die ugly. Aggroing Dryders and a group of 3 snarling driftwoods are fine. Just watch out for patrolling ancient skales. Practice makes perfect.
Look at those drops =_= those shards in the videos OMG LOL.
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Aug 30, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denmark
Guild: [HH] [Hax]
Profession: Mo/
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Cant downloade the Video.. The Upload site seems to be crappy e.e it says page cannot be found after i enter the security numbers
~Shadow
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Aug 30, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47
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#15
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinslw
Weidi what staff are you using in the video? I would suggest Brightclaw(also 2020 restoration) and a 2020 restoration focus. Gives you a better chance for fast recharge and skill cast. Just want to say thanks alot for the video. Now my rit/mes can farm both uw and fow XD~
For beginners, advice - do not aggro ancients skales and snarling driftwood together. You are not supposed to lol. Else die ugly. Aggroing Dryders and a group of 3 snarling driftwoods are fine. Just watch out for patrolling ancient skales. Practice makes perfect.
Look at those drops =_= those shards in the videos OMG LOL.
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i had 4 shards on that run xD
Using a 20/20 recharge and cast staff crafted somewhere...with 2x +5al
i like that armor add when lure the spiders together...
For the download site, you got to watch out big and small written letters i think.
If u failed push back button and then refresh... to get a new code...
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Aug 31, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Germany
Guild: PaRe
Profession: W/
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I took me damn 3000 gold to get past the first group of the shadow army. They just love to kill the ghostly
Well killing the skales is much more fun than running past them. if you have no longbow just lure them and walk back until they are aout of casting range. resilent weapon will help against the first degeneration. if they recast you have done something wrong
I love to kill them because they have always been a pain for my Warrior.
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Aug 31, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40
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#17
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Ascalonian Squire
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Hm, dunno how or why shadow grps kill the ghostly....
never happened to me :/.
But Have resilent weapon on to run to beach helps alot too. Since Mesmer and necros from the Shadow grps put alot of hexes on you.
And expect a shatter enchant from the shadow mesmers... it is no bad choice to run with tsungrai ashes in your hands.
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Aug 31, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]
Profession: N/
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The only problem ive ran into so far was after the first safe zone (according to the W/X spider farm) there is almost always a group or 2 of skales and 1 or 2 dryers, if its one then thats fine since i can recast IoH, if there is more then one then they keep shattering IoH..
although ive only tried it about 2 times when i was tired as hell. I havent tried the Rt/R and dont see a any point to since im more comfotable with the Rt/Me.
Weidi, could you explain the running part to get there a little more in depth? in case people have the same problem i did.
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